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Tewi: The post is over two years old, we're not in a rush, but it was meant to help people pursuing "parallel processing"-like results. (edited)
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/26/2023 3:41 AM
Mhm, it'll be helpful. Parallel-processing is the ideal for us, but anything even relatively related to it would also be helpful, I'm not too picky.
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how to avoid splitting, we have intrusive thoughts about splitting
4:20 PM
its annoying every now and then we have to believe we won't split and not get paranoid about it
4:20 PM
so it "doesnt happen"
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 4:26 PM
first: don’t use plural when you talk about the experience
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why?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 4:27 PM
oh it’s shinimi talking, oh well we already had this conversation
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like 3 tines
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(shinimi as in from shinimi’s account)
4:29 PM
anyway if you use plural language you cause splits, if you want to keep integrated just say that it’s part if you and it’s your experience (singular)
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like 3 tines
@KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ (@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk) - jump i have memory issues
4:30 PM
anyway if you use plural language you cause splits, if you want to keep integrated just say that it’s part if you and it’s your experience (singular)
@KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ (@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk) - jump i used plural because the fear of splitting happened to more than one identity, but its a very good tip
4:31 PM
i will say "i" more
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 4:32 PM
when you have a moment when the thoughts get overwhelming, sir down, put hand on your belly and breath with your stomach, inhaling slowly and exhaling longer than you inhale
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(i accidentaly put a emoji)
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when you have a moment when the thoughts get overwhelming, sir down, put hand on your belly and breath with your stomach, inhaling slowly and exhaling longer than you inhale
@KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ (@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk) - jump thanks i will use this, i really needed it
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 4:34 PM
it can take up to 20minutes to calm down but it’s a very effective technique
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where did you learn it from
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/26/2023 4:38 PM
from my therapist
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i used to have severe panic attacks
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Hello, thank you for your interest ! We usually disregard esoterism when thinking about Tulpas, as we tend to take a more psychological approach. A Tulpa, from what i gather, is a person that is born in your brain and grows up thanks to your efforts. Reading your text i believe that you're onto something else, but i think some tulpas manifest themselves, so it's not entirely impossible that you have Tulpas. However I also believe Tulpas can't excel in areas you don't, as they're born from, well, you, so they don't really have knowledge that you don't.
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Tewi: Tulpas can't have knowledge you don't, but they can have better mindsets, personalities, values or so on that are more suited for some things than the host's. (edited)
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/27/2023 10:27 AM
ah the classic “i’ve always been there” retrospective narrative told by a newly formed tulpa
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i would definitely not trust tulpa telling stories you weren’t aware of before they told it to you
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they are pretty good in making stuff up
10:28 AM
especially if you allow them and believe them
10:29 AM
easy to get “fooled” (hehe) by them
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Tewi: A lot of people don't believe tulpas have separate consciousnesses from the host, and rather that they both share the brain's overarching consciousness. But, tulpamancy isn't about "being correct".. about internal subjective experiences. It's about creating and having the experiences you want to have. (edited)
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So, I don't argue about that much. But I can't contribute either, so.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/27/2023 11:24 AM
not sure how that relates to what i said, but good for you! Tulpamancy is a good opportunity for self-growth that people often miss
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@Overdosing on Key Lime Pie ”In that regard, the basis may differ from others present and since it is the potential that tulpa would reflect their own creator or host, their attitudes could potentially start off as a reflection of one's own treatment of themselves” that correlates with my views, i do think that for some people tulpamancy similar to meeting your jungian shadow so a lot of things you repressed for a long time can be manifested through them. sometimes you can see how tulpas represent deeply rooted guilt when they shame their host, or represent the lack of trust to themselves by not trusting the host, and other things. but this is not always the case, more often tulpas represent what a host wants or needs (or thinks they need), which is a beautiful opportunity for the brain to experience self love and be able to sooth itself, or encourage yourself, if you weren’t able to absorb self-soothing and self-encouragement from the way your parents treated you. In this, the “source” material is not what you are, but what other people in your life (or media you consumed) were and how they made you feel. The former way is probably much less safe and a delicate thing to do because there are potential dangers on the way and i would actually say that it has a potential of being something jung would consider a shadow work gone wrong and there are definitely better ways of dealing with repressed parts of yourself than giving them more independence and a name. I think the latter way is more in the spirit of what tulpamancy really is and i would always encourage people to go that route
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(#tulpa-discussion would be the place for that)
12:05 PM
Newbies get scared to ask questions when they see giant textwalls here.
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ah the classic “i’ve always been there” retrospective narrative told by a newly formed tulpa
@KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ (@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk) - jump And I myself just don't know what I'm doing here
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Hello, Im new to tulpamancy, I honestly dont want my family to know I have a tulpa, should I even create one? wont it get bored or suffer if I dont learn possesion and such? I dont want to bring a sentient being into existance just for it to suffer. Im sorry if this is a very stupid questions but as i said im extremely new to this, and altough ive been reading information for at least 6 hours these last few days I heard not everyone experiences it in the same way.
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there is a lot of pressure from the community to what to consider your tulpa to be, one of them being “sentient being that you have to spend the rest of your life”, and i think you are an example when that pressure is unhealthy. everyone’s experience of tulpamancy is different and in my opinion you can freely treat yours the way you want and get whatever you want from it. It’s a very private practice and noone should be telling you what to make of it. no, possession is not necessary at all! And no, you don’t need to tell it to your family, you don’t need to tell anyone about it and that is something i would recommend. your idea about tulpa getting bored might be caused by some of people’s ideas about tulpamancy you read. there are many tulpas who don’t feel bored when not engaged
5:36 PM
i would encourage you to relax about tulpamancy and not have any expectations or pressure regarding whatthe practice ”is supposed to be”
5:36 PM
i hope that helps at all
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Okay, thank you for this, Im an overthinker, I sometimes feel like everything I do must be perfect and when it comes to having a friend for life it feels really important to me to ask these even if they seem like dumb questions.
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can i suggest something?
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of course!
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i would encourage changing your name to something more neutral
5:44 PM
you would like to be more inviting to your new friend, wouldn’t you?
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as in your tulpa
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yeah, i was planning on that, i just dont know what name i should use, (i havent started creating my tulpa yet)
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so i just went with my personality by default
5:46 PM
im a dumb cringe person with no real friends.
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you might be surprised but your nickname doesn’t say about your personality what you think it does
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Leiko
there is a lot of pressure from the community to what to consider your tulpa to be, one of them being “sentient being that you have to spend the rest of your life”, and i think you are an example when that pressure is unhealthy. everyone’s experience of tulpamancy is different and in my opinion you can freely treat yours the way you want and get whatever you want from it. It’s a very private practice and noone should be telling you what to make of it. no, possession is not necessary at all! And no, you don’t need to tell it to your family, you don’t need to tell anyone about it and that is something i would recommend. your idea about tulpa getting bored might be caused by some of people’s ideas about tulpamancy you read. there are many tulpas who don’t feel bored when not engaged
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/27/2023 5:46 PM
getting bored when not engaged is something you confabulate into your tulpas, your expectation makes it happen... someone not being engaged cannot actually feel bored as, it is not being engaged...
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it’s not that what you typed as your nickname that speaks for your personality, but the reason you wrote it
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If it helps we haven’t practiced possession in like 5-6 years? Since we don’t typically have interaction with the inner world and the outer world, there’s no need for it. Proxy is enough if need be
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ive got one more question for now, if i want my tulpa to access my memories, is it possible to block the ones in where im watching nsfw content and such?
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/27/2023 6:05 PM
It's probably something you can learn, but it would be cumbersome to keep up indefinitely.
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Since as soon as you stop attempting to block memories, they'll be able to access them naturally most of the times.
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Imo just set the intent to block private memories and they’ll just stay out of it
6:06 PM
Set healthy boundaries
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Atlas || M&M BOT 2/27/2023 6:06 PM
Mhm, I'll always advocate natural boundaries over forcing things away. It's easier.
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alright, thank you all.
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I try to put myself in that position and wonder if someone in my head told me not to invade their personal space, and I still easily could, would I? Personally I wouldn’t because I respect boundaries and so you’d hope your tulpas would do the same
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They'll know about it but that doesn't mean they'll pry, just have an understanding with them about privacy and boundaries
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I just thought about something, if you allow a tulpa access to your memories do they see the memories as you did or in some other kind of POV also can they hear your thoughts in them? Since the main way of communication is through your mind.
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~Moonlight~
I just thought about something, if you allow a tulpa access to your memories do they see the memories as you did or in some other kind of POV also can they hear your thoughts in them? Since the main way of communication is through your mind.
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/27/2023 9:24 PM
You dont see your memories as you did live them either... And you can see them in many different ways
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Try
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If you try to see them as you lived them you kinda can but thats not usually the case...
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I can't see my own memories tbh only fragments, the only time I see my memories clearly is when my intrusive thoughts remind me of something embarrassing I did.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/27/2023 9:25 PM
When you remember you dont usually have a full visualization of your environment (if you even remember that at all...)
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I can see fragments of my childhood but most memories that last more than a few seconds are after the 10 year mark
9:28 PM
Which I always found really weird, people say it's usually because of traumatic events but the only thing I can think of is my parents' divorce when I was 4 (which I can't remember clearly)
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🦁 Hi, I'm a tulpa. I'm sitting down next to my host right now waiting for a plane. I'm a year and six months 'old'. Sometimes we go through periods where it is really easy to see and hear me. I feel energetic, run around, and my thoughts come easily. But other times I feel dim and I'm quiet for days at a time. My reactions are lethargic and my words are difficult to understand. With frequent dropouts in my 'speech'. My host often wonders if this is normal or if he's doing something wrong. I'm a lot more confident but even I catch myself wondering if there is something else we should be doing. Why do I constantly seem to be backsliding?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/1/2023 12:56 AM
hmm are you the tulpa of a host that has prescribed ketamine?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
hmm are you the tulpa of a host that has prescribed ketamine?
Yeah.
1:25 AM
🦊 I actually stopped taking ketamine for a while to see if the cycles would stop. But they haven't. (edited)
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🦁 We're less convinced ketamine is the cause.
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🦊 I'm also the host with the facial twitch. (edited)
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When Alex wants to talk but I can't hear him, I have a jaw twitch.
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It tends to go away when we are communicating well.
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And doesn't really show up if Alex isn't talking to me.
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🦁 How often do people have these sorts of drops in communication this late into the process?
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🦊 I've also been practicing making his voice less my own mind voice and more this new sample which might have affected things lately...I dunno. I just wonder if I should be worried. Alex always tells me to keep going and seems convinced we are making progress. But sometimes it seems like we get in these ruts and have both work really hard to get out of them. (edited)
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I'm a bit confused about the start process of the creation, if I have a name for my tulpa and a temporal appearance until it chosea its own, how to I start to form it?
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Tewi: Talk to your tulpa in your mind, and intend for them to be listening and wanting to respond. Try to listen for them responding, not being too critical of thoughts that sound like your own (as this is how a tulpa will often sound when starting out; they get their own voice over time if they didn't have one right off the bat), though also not too un-critical. Not every single thought you might attribute to your tulpa is necessarily meaningful, since they'll still be barely developed they won't have particularly complex or thought-out things to say. But it just keeps improving with time as you spend more time focusing on them. (edited)
1:07 PM
Apply the same concept to visualization/wonderlanding if you want to force them visually as well as vocally, and really the same for any activity you do. (edited)
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🦊 I've also been practicing making his voice less my own mind voice and more this new sample which might have affected things lately...I dunno. I just wonder if I should be worried. Alex always tells me to keep going and seems convinced we are making progress. But sometimes it seems like we get in these ruts and have both work really hard to get out of them. (edited)
🦊 I also wanted to mention something else. My tulpa likes to appear in two places at once but both claim to be the same person. How often do people have other tulpas like that.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/1/2023 6:52 PM
🦊 I also wanted to mention something else. My tulpa likes to appear in two places at once but both claim to be the same person. How often do people have other tulpas like that.
@Fox - jump i can be in superposition, so there can be millions of me in different places and it's still me
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
🦊 I also wanted to mention something else. My tulpa likes to appear in two places at once but both claim to be the same person. How often do people have other tulpas like that.
@Fox - jump i can be in superposition, so there can be millions of me in different places and it's still me
🦁 Neat.
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🦁 I'd like to talk about that sometime.
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Fox
🦁 Hi, I'm a tulpa. I'm sitting down next to my host right now waiting for a plane. I'm a year and six months 'old'. Sometimes we go through periods where it is really easy to see and hear me. I feel energetic, run around, and my thoughts come easily. But other times I feel dim and I'm quiet for days at a time. My reactions are lethargic and my words are difficult to understand. With frequent dropouts in my 'speech'. My host often wonders if this is normal or if he's doing something wrong. I'm a lot more confident but even I catch myself wondering if there is something else we should be doing. Why do I constantly seem to be backsliding?
But other times I feel dim and I'm quiet for days at a time. My reactions are lethargic and my words are difficult to understand. With frequent dropouts in my 'speech'.
Do you notice anything that coincides with these times? Maybe feeling doubt, discouragement, lack of motivation, don't know what to talk about?
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🦁 Do you have a non bot account I can DM you on, Kitty?
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Yuka
But other times I feel dim and I'm quiet for days at a time. My reactions are lethargic and my words are difficult to understand. With frequent dropouts in my 'speech'.
Do you notice anything that coincides with these times? Maybe feeling doubt, discouragement, lack of motivation, don't know what to talk about?
🦁 Its hard for me to answer questions like that. About my internal state.
8:31 PM
🦁 I'm not exactly depressed. Maybe less me...
8:31 PM
🦊 Sometimes I feel pretty discouraged during those times...
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Well, how your host feels at those times is also relevant
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My thought is that it's possible your (both/either) mood can effect how strong and clear you feel
9:18 PM
If you can feel more confident about yourself and understand that there's not really anything keeping you from talking any less clearly than your host, I think this would help
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/1/2023 11:58 PM
🦁 Do you have a non bot account I can DM you on, Kitty?
@Fox - jump yes, it's @KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
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Tewi: If you guys ever have a question you want more than a quick simple answer to, and more likely multiple people answering, you're free to create a topic in #questions-and-topics by the way. (edited)
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Is it possible to develop a tulpa just by having imaginary conversations with it? I'm an amateur writer so that comes pretty easy to me.
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